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Questions from Glenn about my Piaggio Boxer-EV:


1.After your initial problems with controller choice, have the motor and controller worked out OK for you? I'd be worried about motor cooling of something designed for air-over, prop slipstream. 

Well, I've burnt out two controllers. I'm now force-cooling them with a high-speed fan designed for a blade server, so I'm hoping the present controller will last.  Right now, though, my bike is in the garage for an undiagnosed power problem. I'm thinking one of the motor power leads has broken, although I haven't had time for a full diagnosis.

The motor itself doesn't get that hot (although if I have melted a power lead, I'll have to go back on that statement).  I've measured it with an IR thermometer after running it and it doesn't get too much beyond 75°C.   I currently have it force-cooled with a fan. I'd ideally like to have it cooled by the air from the slip stream, but  there's too much risk of gunk / water getting kicked up by the wheel and pushed into the motor if I use a ram-jet type cooling vent.

2.Are you really using all 7kW(9+HP!) of the motors capacity? It seems like a lot for a bike your size. 

No, my peak seems to be 90-100 amps at 36-48 volts or around 5 electric HP.  Which isn't a whole lot, many contemporary 50cc scooters will put out that much.

3.Do you know of any motors sized between your reasonably priced 7kW and the disgusting $2K 12kW units? Thanks, Glenn

The Etek motor and its clones seems to be the power unit of choice for many scooter /motorbike conversions.   Brand new, it's around $1000 - $2000 but you can find the clones on ebay for around $400. It comes in both brushless and brushed versions.

Karen

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I managed to shim the v-belt pulley and jerry-rig a motor mount, so I mounted up the little motor onto my Piaggio Boxer scooter, put the v-belt on, strapped the batteries on with duct tape, and shorted the throttle wires, and it ran!

The speed was horrendous, maybe 6 mph on a slight downhill and 3-4 mph on a level surface. But that's fine for the purpose of my test run.

Here are the current specs:

Base model: Piaggio Boxer Mo-ped
Motor: 24V 240 watt MY-1016 from a Razor Pocket Rocket mini-bike
Batteries: 12 V SLA 7ah x 2 (from Razor)
Motor Controller: 24VDC 30A controller (from Razor)

After running it for 10 minutes up and down the street, the motor was extremely hot, hot enough for the label to peel off. The controller was also hot (enough to wrinkle the duct tape holding it on). The batteries seemed fine.

Thoughts:

1. I definitely need to push this up to 48V so I can get more wattage at the same amperage. There's enough space on the mo-ped runners to mount 2 sets of 2 SLAs on each side.
2. The current motor mount blocks airflow to the motor. I need to mount it better so that it is in the direct air current.
3. I need to find a more powerful motor too, while I'm at it.
4. I need to figure out how to get it to be even a higher gear ratio that what I currently have. Maybe find a smaller front pulley somewhere or figure out how to mount a large sprocket on the rear and have it chain-driven.

Anyways, I'm very pleased with myself that it at least works. Smiling Now to just make it work better!

Karen

p.s. Photos to follow soon.

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